The game does have some... not great moments (thinking in particular of the one where Raz fights with Kai, and Riley stomps on Claude's face because haha comedy)

For the flowers:

• On one hand, ha ha funny comment that on the surface makes him look like a wimp but actually has kind of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up implications!
  
• On the other hand, NGL it's not like soldiers of an invading imperial army that practices violent ethnic repression are up there on the list of people whose lives I value either

Another woke zombie... Put your stupid social justice ideas back to your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, please. World is not "modern american culture", and even America is not only WOKE.

Originally posted by Clegane:

Another woke zombie... Put your stupid social justice ideas back to your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, please. World is not "modern american culture", and even America is not only WOKE.

What?

Originally posted by Histidine:

The game does have some... not great moments (thinking in particular of the one where Raz fights with Kai, and Riley stomps on Claude's face because haha comedy)

For the flowers:

• On one hand, ha ha funny comment that on the surface makes him look like a wimp but actually has kind of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up implications!
  
• On the other hand, NGL it's not like soldiers of an invading imperial army that practices violent ethnic repression are up there on the list of people whose lives I value either

Really rather ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up :) It's tonally so bizarre, even for eastern media. It does make it interesting though.

Originally posted by Sminky:

Originally posted by Clegane:

Another woke zombie... Put your stupid social justice ideas back to your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, please. World is not "modern american culture", and even America is not only WOKE.

What?

I trying to tell that the game isn't sexist, it's just you.

Originally posted by Clegane:

Originally posted by Sminky:

What?

I trying to tell that the game isn't sexist, it's just you.

So how does America come into it? I'm not American, i'm guessing neither are you, nor is the game.

Originally posted by Sminky:

Originally posted by Clegane:

I trying to tell that the game isn't sexist, it's just you.

So how does America come into it? I'm not American, i'm guessing neither are you, nor is the game.

Modern culture to claim everything as "sexist" and so on comes from America. And you're the guy, who is into it.
Can you explain why you blame the game is sexist? Not a specific character, but the game itself, as you mentioned?

Originally posted by Sminky:

...but christ for the time it was made why is the game so leering and sexist?

Originally posted by Clegane:

Originally posted by Sminky:

So how does America come into it? I'm not American, i'm guessing neither are you, nor is the game.

Modern culture to claim everything as "sexist" and so on comes from America. And you're the guy, who is into it.
Can you explain why you blame the game is sexist? Not a specific character, but the game itself, as you mentioned?

Originally posted by Sminky:

...but christ for the time it was made why is the game so leering and sexist?

it doesn't just come from America, why do you think that? It would be interesting to know where you're from out of interest? I'm UK here for what it's worth. The portrayal of women in this game hits so many sexist notes take the squad story 'all the single ladies' for a single example.

Don't get me wrong, i'm all for 'sexy' games. But if there's to be drama an pathos involved then you need an even representation in personality across sexes, (and race). you can't make one group tonally different then the others.

Originally posted by Sminky:

Don't get me wrong, i'm all for 'sexy' games. But if there's to be drama an pathos involved then you need an even representation in personality across sexes, (and race). you can't make one group tonally different then the others.

.... Yes you can. What "sexy" are you even talking about? The swimsuits? The hot spring scene? What even is the basis of your argument? Raz is "supposed" to be sexist, it's to cover up his own insecurity's and secret love of "Kai". How would you ever get an "even" representation, and why would you even want that? The characters are a hodge podge of personality stereotypes, because that's the way to create a character, by pulling from common knowledge. It's impossible to create a story without using stereotypes because, no one would be able follow the motivation of the characters without having a general idea of what they are supposed to represent.

Originally posted by Sminky:

Don't get me wrong, i'm all for 'sexy' games. But if there's to be drama an pathos involved then you need an even representation in personality across sexes, (and race). you can't make one group tonally different then the others.

Here we go again: representations, races, "you need", "you can't" - typical woke ♥♥♥♥, isn't it?

representation race? Darcsen lives matter

Originally posted by Clegane:

Originally posted by Sminky:

Don't get me wrong, i'm all for 'sexy' games. But if there's to be drama an pathos involved then you need an even representation in personality across sexes, (and race). you can't make one group tonally different then the others.

Here we go again: representations, races, "you need", "you can't" - typical woke ♥♥♥♥, isn't it?

just that any group that is represented needs to hit the same tone as the piece overall, which race wise this game arguable does, just as long as you're not female. It's nothing about being 'woke'. Also i'd suggest when someone uses the term 'woke' in a context of a discussion like this one, then they are really telling on themselves.

Originally posted by Sminky:

Originally posted by Clegane:

Here we go again: representations, races, "you need", "you can't" - typical woke ♥♥♥♥, isn't it?

just that any group that is represented needs to hit the same tone as the piece overall, which race wise this game arguable does, just as long as you're not female. It's nothing about being 'woke'. Also i'd suggest when someone uses the term 'woke' in a context of a discussion like this one, then they are really telling on themselves.

And you call me woke afterall? This is ridiculous! What a mess in your head, brother...

Originally posted by Clegane:

Originally posted by Sminky:

just that any group that is represented needs to hit the same tone as the piece overall, which race wise this game arguable does, just as long as you're not female. It's nothing about being 'woke'. Also i'd suggest when someone uses the term 'woke' in a context of a discussion like this one, then they are really telling on themselves.

And you call me woke afterall? This is ridiculous! What a mess in your head, brother...

The OP does seem to have had a bit of a knee-jerk reaction, but let's be clear here: You're not the lighthouse of Alexandria either.

Instead of picking any of the hundreds of possible arguments you could bring up, you instead decided to scream the catchphrase of your choice at the top of your lungs, undermining any chance at an actual conversation. Well done, do you also pick hot air as sole ingredient for all your cooking efforts?

Originally posted by kuraiken:

Originally posted by Clegane:

And you call me woke afterall? This is ridiculous! What a mess in your head, brother...

The OP does seem to have had a bit of a knee-jerk reaction, but let's be clear here: You're not the lighthouse of Alexandria either.

Instead of picking any of the hundreds of possible arguments you could bring up, you instead decided to scream the catchphrase of your choice at the top of your lungs, undermining any chance at an actual conversation. Well done, do you also pick hot air as sole ingredient for all your cooking efforts?

Well... I don't really hope to find any agreements here. The only right decision was not to start any conversation with OP. You're not going to have a reasonable experience here either.