TaleSpire

TaleSpire

Zoltan 24 Jun, 2024 @ 10:54pm
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I have owned this game for some time
Does not look much different then it was a long time ago. By the time you get done this will be obsolete. Lets be realistic here. Your already obsolete and it looks like you getting nowhere.
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Zoltan 24 Jun, 2024 @ 10:56pm 
I guess what I am saying if we cannot import things from other platform to speed things up here this will not work. Nobody is going to build a campaign from scratch on this platform. That would be very dumb
Gajia 25 Jun, 2024 @ 12:37am 
There are a lot of dumb people that use it out there then it seems. Including the folks from Dimension20.

A lot changed in the especially past one and a half years and a lot of really nice features were added.

Also the expectation that they should make it possible to 'import things from other platforms' feels very weird to me. Why would other platforms want to make their content accessible for another companies product? Especially DnD Beyond - which is in WotCs grip and those people usually rather screw others over instead of being user friendly. (I chose this example since I saw you complaining about this in the discussions of a lot of VTTs and map makers here on Steam.)

Plus: Different platforms work differently in so many ways - content is not always compatible especially when you put 2D VTTs and 3D VTTs next to each other.

Plus, plus: They added Symbiotes, which is a web based modding tool and people already created Symbiotes to access their DnD Beyond stuff directly through Talespire. So there is that.


Won't go into further debates about it here, since it didn't start out as a very promising discussion to begin with, but I wanted to put that here as a little food for thought. Maybe for you, maybe just for others reading this.
Zoltan 25 Jun, 2024 @ 6:45am 
All that work putting all those tiles together is absolutely crazy and can't possibly be a productive campaign. A different story if there was a way to import something or have AI generate your scenes.
Gajia 25 Jun, 2024 @ 7:08am 
https://talestavern.com/

There is. Boards can be shared and are being shared for years. People that do not have a lot of time to build maps can use maps other people made. There are even people that only ever use Talespire to build stuff to begin with. And creating simple scenes, battle maps and encounter locations is actually a really fast thing to achieve.

Also: AI has to be trained on existing stuff. There is no 'AI' in games and software like this and without gigantic data sets AI could never work for it because AI in general already struggles with a lot even if it HAS huge data sets to work on.

I recommend looking up everything Talespire actually can do and if you need some advice on it: There are a lot of nice and helpful people on the official Discord server.

https://discord.gg/talespire
SarcasticManGnome 26 Jun, 2024 @ 4:42pm 
I've run two lvl 1-10 campaigns start to finish using exclusively talespire and am beginning three more as we speak. To me it sounds like you simply don't wish to spend the time building and prepping scenes which displays your priorities if anything. but Talespire has worked wonders for my players with aphantasia who need help with more than a worded description.
Zoltan 26 Jun, 2024 @ 9:10pm 
Some of us don't have a lot of extra time on our hands.
Trin 27 Jun, 2024 @ 2:27pm 
Then you shouldn't be DM'ing a board if you don't have the time to prep for sessions. Stick to theatre of the mind, or premade maps/campaigns. There are plenty you can import from TalesTavern.

Don't complain here that a tool all of us are using is useless just because you personally don't have the time to use it.
Last edited by Trin; 27 Jun, 2024 @ 2:29pm
Baldrax 27 Jun, 2024 @ 2:55pm 
Originally posted by Zoltan:
I guess what I am saying if we cannot import things from other platform to speed things up here this will not work. Nobody is going to build a campaign from scratch on this platform. That would be very dumb

Here is me importing stuff from another platform to speed things up.

Timestamped youtube Link (12:32):
https://youtu.be/o_fNo9Yf67c?si=dT4P2AyZcZectKei&t=752

The timestamp isn't coming across on here, but if you go to about the 12:32 mark that is where I start to export the map.
Last edited by Baldrax; 27 Jun, 2024 @ 3:01pm
sozcaps 1 Jul, 2024 @ 4:02am 
Originally posted by Zoltan:
Does not look much different then it was a long time ago. By the time you get done this will be obsolete. Lets be realistic here. Your already obsolete and it looks like you getting nowhere.

Obsolete how? Most of the competing 3D VTTs look like they were made in 2011, and we lastly got only a tiny update on WotC's VTT, and I think that was all the way back in 2023.

These programs take long to develop, and I don't think any software is anywhere close to running in to crown itself the king of 3D Virtual Tabletop yet.
Zoltan 5 Jul, 2024 @ 8:53pm 
I am using Dungeon Alchemist with conjunction with Fantasy Grounds Unity. I am yet to find anything better than can mingle with my databases and AI.
Gajia 6 Jul, 2024 @ 12:00am 
Dungeon Alchemist isn't using Ai, no matter how much they try to sell it as something that it isn't. It is also not a real 3D VTT since from what I know you can't play in it and only get fancy top down none 3D maps out of it.

Nice if it works for you. Not a comparison though.
Baldrax 8 Jul, 2024 @ 3:25pm 
Originally posted by Zoltan:
I am using Dungeon Alchemist with conjunction with Fantasy Grounds Unity. I am yet to find anything better than can mingle with my databases and AI.

Yeah, Dungeon Alchemist does not export anything useful for a 3D VTT, it exports a 2D image and an XML file that contains the 2D vector outlines of rooms and locations of lights.
Fantasy Grounds is just importing these two files that Dungeon Alchemist is exporting.

3D complicates everything but, as I showed above, TaleSpire is perfectly capable of accepting data from external sources. There is a random dungeon generator on the web and two terrain generators and there will only be more in the future.
Then there is a huge library of premade slabs and boards, many slabs are available directly in game and others are hosted on websites and accessible in game with a couple of clicks.

Is there any other 3D VTT with such accessible and varied custom content?
Kat 14 Jul, 2024 @ 11:47pm 
Preach.
grindyz 15 Jul, 2024 @ 4:46pm 
I just hit the 600 mini max. I could use a 1200 mini max. :-) Lemme see... at a conservative $2 per mini x 600... yeah, TaleSpire works for my purposes just fine so far and gets better as it goes along. Has anyone heard anything about raising the 600 mini limit?
EDIT: 600 mini limit per board as it turns out. I've got 600 minis on a "display case" board that I put together and tried to add today's minis drop. I guess I'll just make another display case in TaleSpire and grab some more minis.
Last edited by grindyz; 15 Jul, 2024 @ 4:55pm
Slimothy James 28 Jul, 2024 @ 12:31pm 
Are you okay? you are all over the place like AI.
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